Thread overview
Non-blocking keyboard input
Dec 27
Joe
Jan 14
Joe
December 27

??????????????????????????????????????? Surely there there is a one liner library solution for this?

I have a program that spawns a thread for debugging information and uses the keyboard input which allows me to display the information.

If I use getchar or readline then it blocks the thread. This is generally fine because that is all the thread does. The problem is that it also blocks the program termination as the main thread will not exit while the thread is running which is is because it's waiting on keyboard input stuck on getchar or fgetc or whatever.

If I terminate the threads using thread_term then it terminates the program but the program then does not return the return code that it was successfully finished(because it was prematurely terminated by thread_term.

Surely there is some type of peek for keyboards in D? I can't seem to get kbhit or because the library is not included(well, I tried to use one from dmc but it seemed to be invalid. snn.lib IIRC).

This shouldn't be hard... yet it is.

December 27

On Wednesday, 27 December 2023 at 05:07:04 UTC, Joe wrote:

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??????????????????????????????????????? Surely there there is a one liner library solution for this?

It is not one line because it needs a bit of setup (and teardown, but the objects' destructors do that for you) but it is close:

http://arsd-official.dpldocs.info/arsd.terminal.html#single-key

input.getch waits for a single line, but you can use if(input.kbhit()) to see if it would block before calling it.

>

This shouldn't be hard... yet it is.

Better be careful, the mods are out in force deleting posts this week that tell the hard truth. But yeah, the stdlib in D has very little activity:

https://github.com/dlang/phobos/graphs/contributors?

So you can't expect much from it. My arsd libs provide a broad set of functionality missing from it: stuff like this terminal/console stuff, window creation, basic guis, web servers, etc.

If you want to try them, you can use it from the dub system, but I recommend just git clone https://github.com/adamdruppe/arsd.git in your working directory then import what you want and use dmd -i to automatically include them in the build.

December 27

On Wednesday, 27 December 2023 at 05:07:04 UTC, Joe wrote:

>

??????????????????????????????????????? Surely there there is a one liner library solution for this?

I have a program that spawns a thread for debugging information and uses the keyboard input which allows me to display the information.

If I use getchar or readline then it blocks the thread. This is generally fine because that is all the thread does. The problem is that it also blocks the program termination as the main thread will not exit while the thread is running which is is because it's waiting on keyboard input stuck on getchar or fgetc or whatever.

If I terminate the threads using thread_term then it terminates the program but the program then does not return the return code that it was successfully finished(because it was prematurely terminated by thread_term.

Surely there is some type of peek for keyboards in D? I can't seem to get kbhit or because the library is not included(well, I tried to use one from dmc but it seemed to be invalid. snn.lib IIRC).

This shouldn't be hard... yet it is.

One option (not tested) should be to close stdin so that readln then returns null or something on eof.

Shutting down threads is always tricky.

It would be great if there would be one or two (perhaps one synchronous, one asynchronous) main io-frameworks for dlang (also as dub packages) that cover the most common use-cases.

Kind regards,
Christian

December 27

On Wednesday, 27 December 2023 at 14:41:05 UTC, Christian Köstlin wrote:

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One option (not tested) should be to close stdin so that readln then returns null or something on eof.

Shutting down threads is always tricky.

It would be great if there would be one or two (perhaps one synchronous, one asynchronous) main io-frameworks for dlang (also as dub packages) that cover the most common use-cases.

Kind regards,
Christian
I tested this now, but it still blocks in readln ...

Kind regards,
Christian

January 14

On Wednesday, 27 December 2023 at 13:27:53 UTC, Adam D Ruppe wrote:

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On Wednesday, 27 December 2023 at 05:07:04 UTC, Joe wrote:

>

??????????????????????????????????????? Surely there there is a one liner library solution for this?

It is not one line because it needs a bit of setup (and teardown, but the objects' destructors do that for you) but it is close:

http://arsd-official.dpldocs.info/arsd.terminal.html#single-key

input.getch waits for a single line, but you can use if(input.kbhit()) to see if it would block before calling it.

>

This shouldn't be hard... yet it is.

Better be careful, the mods are out in force deleting posts this week that tell the hard truth. But yeah, the stdlib in D has very little activity:

https://github.com/dlang/phobos/graphs/contributors?

So you can't expect much from it. My arsd libs provide a broad set of functionality missing from it: stuff like this terminal/console stuff, window creation, basic guis, web servers, etc.

If you want to try them, you can use it from the dub system, but I recommend just git clone https://github.com/adamdruppe/arsd.git in your working directory then import what you want and use dmd -i to automatically include them in the build.

This does not actually work on my computer. It still blocks.

	int itr = 0;
	for(;;)
	{
		itr++;
		writeln("1. closeKBThread = ", closeKBThread, ", iter = ", itr);
		if (closeKBThread) return;

						
		string op = "";
		string istr = "";
		while (!closeKBThread)
		{
			writeln("2. ", input.kbhit(), " ", closeKBThread);
			
			if (input.kbhit())
			{							
				istr ~= input.getch(false);
				break;
			}					
		}
		writeln("final istr = ", istr);
  1. closeKBThread = false, iter = 1
  2. false false
  3. false false
  4. false false
  5. false false
    final istr = f
  6. closeKBThread = false, iter = 2
  7. false false < now blocking

All this is just junk of me trying to figure out what was going on, but literally input.kbhit blocks after the first run(which really means it's always blocking)

My original code was

while(true)
{
if (input.kbhit()) { istr ~= input.getch(); break; }
}

and I've been trying all kinds of stuff to figure out what was going on but I believe it is the kbhit function itself. It calls getch(true) and blocks on that as if I were just using getch itself.

The issue is the same, the code does not block then after I hit a key and it goes through an iteration of the outside loop it then blocks waiting for the next input.

January 14

On Sunday, 14 January 2024 at 13:41:26 UTC, Joe wrote:

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This does not actually work on my computer. It still blocks.

Adam is no longer using mainstream D, and apparently not posting on this forum.

I suggest you try to contact him via the arsd github page:

https://github.com/adamdruppe/arsd

-Steve